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finally gonna happen. skylab missed you but not this time. a satellite the size of a bus is on its way down but thankfully it's empty. it's ready to smash into the united states where you're listening right now. how you can prepare for the falling sky that could be coming to a head near you or house near you. "fox & friends" starts right now. >> good morning, everyone. that's a picture right there of that beautiful 20-year-old satellite that looks really pretty when it's up in the sky. unfortunately, it could land somewhere between south america and antarctica. u.s. is in between there. >> as early as today and perhaps as late as saturday but nasa says don't worry, the chances are only 1 in 3,000 that it will kill you. >> doesn't dave matthews make it seem like it's going to be ok? the music, it's like it's going to be all right. when robert goddard shot that
rock into the sky, no one said what about when it comes down? >> sure, when he lit that candle. >> there's a way to track that thing where you can keep an eye on that satellite as it falls through the night. we'll tell you exactly how to do it in your finnigertips in a couple of minutes. >> late last night convicted cop killer troy davis was executed after all nine of supreme court justices voted to uphold his sentence. he was given to a lethal injection and pronounced dead at 11:08 p.m. his last words directed at the family of the police officer that he murdered. >> he said that he was not personally responsible for what happened that night, that he did not have a gun. he said to the family that he was sorry for their loss. >> and in livingston, texas, lawrence brewer was executed by lethal injection. he was one of the three white
supremacists, remember this horrible story, he killed a black man by dragging him from the back of a pickup truck. apparently, he had no remorse. developing story overnight. the taliban leader who lured 30 american troops to their death last night in afghanistan has been killed. he was killed by a nato air strike. nato says the dead taliban leader lured our troops to their death by tipping them off about a taliban meeting. their chopper then taken down by a rocket-propelled grenade. guess what? now he's dead. president obama heading to ohio today will push his $450 billion jobs plan and one stop on the trip is particularly controversial. we're talking about the brent spence bridge that links cincinnati and covington, kentucky. the ailing bridge is a perfect example of the type of thing his bill would fund. experts say the bridge is four years away from being shovel ready and would cost taxpayers more than $2 billion to fix. for the 18th year in a row, bill
gates once again the richest man in america according to "forbes" magazine, the microsoft ceo's net worth $59 billion. in second place, warren buffet with only $39 billion. oracle ceo larry ellison third with $33 b's. >> lot of people have a lot of money. only guy to look for is donald trump. >> for a little while, donald trump was the number one leading republican in the race for the president of the united states. he's dropped out and tonight at 9:00, fox news and google will sponsor a debate watched by a lot of republicans but independents as well. there's the team right there. we have shannon bream, and bret baier guy will anchor things from orlando tonight. >> all eyes will be on independent voters. florida is the purplest of purple states and both sides say this is going to be the year that i get florida and, of course, president obama took it last time and the independents will probably make this up, gretchen. as you know, you got a situation where you have 33% of florida
are democrats. 41% of the state's voters are democrats. you have 36% that are republicans. and a quarter are up for grabs each time. waiting to be impressed. >> they are so why is it so important right now? because the last time around in 2008, what percentage of independents voted for then candidate obama? 52%. that put him over the top in the state of florida. now, when you look at the polls, how many independents approve of the job performance of this president? 33%. 61% disapprove of his performance. it always comes down to the independents. a lot of people are scratching their heads of the policy that this president is putting out that appears to appease his far left base. >> tonight, you can expect a lot of talk about social security. remember in the last couple of debates, mitt romney has talked a little bit about social security a ponzi scheme.
maybe they should hand it over to the states and stuff like that. >> governor perry, you mean. >> governor perry, thank you very much. in advance of the big debate tonight on fox, the candidates in florida talking about social security. >> what would happen to the social security trust fund if you sent social security back to the states? how would they divide it? would it be florida's responsibility to meet the social security needs of everyone who comes to florida? how would you deal with people moving all over the place? what happens if one of the states you lived in didn't have it? what happens, by the way, if one of those states got in financial trouble? and raided their fund. i believe in social security. there are tens of millions of americans who rely upon social security. to meet their needs. i want to protect it. i want to save it. that's the old tactic that the democrats used back through the years to try to scare the senior citizens and that's irresponsible and if anyone on that stage, i mean, that's a
republican and wants to be a republican nominee is trying to scare our seniors with this issue that somehow or another, i'm going to do away with social security, that's just not -- that's not appropriate. it's irresponsible. >> he's got to be clear and tell us -- because, you know, he's not the first one to bring up. mitch daniels in his brand new book out called it a ponzi scheme and said it's not the fact that it is or isn't, it's who is going to fix it. it's not going to away. one of the things that governor perry brought up is one of his ways of fixing is turn it over to the states. let him handle it with their citizens. mitt romney went on to say what if somebody moves? like steve doocy, if he had legal problems from kansas to new jersey to washington, how do we catch up with you? >> that's a very good point. that's going to be topic number one today. and immigration will probably be very high on the list where the state of florida debate is being held. also, health care. governor perry will probably come out swinging against mitt
romney with regard to romney care in massachusetts and some believe that has not been a success in that state. governor perry is coming up with a way to describe particular candidates who maybe favor some of the obama policies. listen to this. be>> we don't need to nominate obama lite. we don't need to nominate someone who is going to blur the lines between president obama and our nominee. this is about the future of america, who is going to get america back working again and i think i can handle that part of the job creation side of it as well as anybody that's going to be on that stage tomorrow night. >> i'll tell you what, he can't be happy with what's happening in texas. that -- the unemployment rate has gone up about a full percent. it lost 1,200 jobs of late. that jobs story is still extraordinary in texas but as of late, starting to trend up in terms of unemployment. >> sure. very interesting. >> in the meantime, let's talk about george soros again, could he be involved in another story we've been discussing here on the fox newschannel with regard
to that company we told you last week out of virginia called light squared, they're the ones that wanted to put out a new 4g technology system with mobile phones, etc., and the gps part of that had the military concerned that maybe it would interfere with the signals of the gps of the military. general shelton said maybe he was pressured to change his testimony. well, now, what is george soros' role in lightsquared. >> while other people have been getting out of a hedge fund that is essentially behind this, george soros has invested in harbinger hedge fund and also a lot of the nonprofits that george soros has backed in the past has also essentially gone to bat for lightsquared when it comes to regulations because, you know, there are some in the gps industry, particularly in the part of the gps spectrum that would be impacted -- that would impact military broadband, they say that could foul up the
gps for our military satellites, maybe not a good idea to turn that thing on. >> darrell issa's committee is investigating. they're going to figure out how deep these ties go back because a lot of those e-mails going back and forth talk about how much money they'll be giving to the obama campaign come this cycle. >> they talk about campaign donations and then they talk about policy and the same thing, does that seem right? uh-uh. >> what kind of odds do you think these are? 1 in 3,200. you think probably it won't happen to me. if it does, you might not be so lucky today. i'm talking about that satellite that may be coming down now somewhere between antarctica and south america. it's a wide range and supposedly going to hit tomorrow. it's a 20-year-old research satellite. the biggest chunk, if it happens to fall on you, it will only be 300 pounds. >> all right. so your tinfoil hat, perhaps, will not help but nasa says don't worry because the chances are slim that you'd be hurt and nobody has ever been killed by one of these things falling out
of the sky before because they say most of the planet is water and also there are vast areas of just empty space. >> are we advising as a network not to go outside for a week? >> no. the network are advising people to go to this -- >> live your life. >> go to this little widget site that has been developed so you can track the darn thing. >> how do you do that? >> you go to n2y0.com and download that thing to keep an eye on it. they say anywhere between today and saturday, that thing is going to burn up the sky and come crashing down somewhere. >> we should do what the chinese did a couple of years ago, shot it out of the sky with a laser. why are we allowing ourselves to be target? >> do they think about it when they put satellites up? 1 in 3,250 chance. come on. people buy lottery tickets every day with much worse odds. >> most people i know was hit by skylab. almost everybody.
>> i know somebody who wish we were hit by skylab. >> in fact, they write about it every day. >> we used to have a friend named skylab. we never knew when he was going to drop in. how old is too old to be living at home? well, a mom and dad are suing to get their son out of the house. >> apparently, it sounds like a movie. >> got to pay attention to that one. palestinians looking for a seat at the table. the former ambassador to the u.n. says it's never going to happen. does he know they're asking for statehood? next. >> "forbes" magazine -- >> satellite hit him, i think. >> conan, i hope you're ok. >> we'll find out if he's all right when we return. so here's five bucks to help you buy v8 juice. five bucks. that's a lot of green. go to v8juice.com for coupons. you can count on us.
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the way things have been is not the way that they will be. to stop disease that spreads across borders, we must strengthen our system of public health. to preserve our planet, we must not put off action that climate change demands. ultimately, the israelis and the palestinians not us who must reach agreement on the issues that divide them. >> right and that was the gist and that's the meat of the speech. it lasted about 44 minutes. ambassador bolton, welcome. was that speech effective yesterday? >> i don't think so. it was very surprising as a student of the presidency. you don't put the president out front as they did on trying to stop this palestinian statehood effort unless you think you have a good chance of doing it. otherwise, you make the president look weak. that's exactly what's going to happen. >> abbas has come to down and by the prospect of him by asking the general assembly of making the palestinian territories a country. what that will mean, as soon as tomorrow he could bring it to
the general assembly. did the president make any progress with his step aside with abbas yesterday? >> it doesn't sound like it. i don't think this will happen tomorrow. i think they'll start the process, what the timing will be is up in the air but the support that palestine has in the general assembly is overwhelming and that really goes to the mistakes the obama administration has made for the last year in not stopping this long before now. >> right. i was shocked by the "new york times" today, to be honest. not the editorial section but the first stripe. it basically says that the u.s. has forfeited its role as the leader of middle east peace to in this case france. nicolas sarkozy was the one who came up with this vatican status idea for the palestinians. >> and that's a bad idea, too. i don't think the president's policy makes any sense but it is a clear case study of what happens when you lead from behind. what it means is you're off the field and somebody else's bad ideas are going to take over. that's what's happening here. >> for the average person who is listening to this, wants to
know what's different about now? what's so significant about the palestinians asking the world for permission to exist when we're already behind a two state solution. break it down for us. >> this whole thing is a fantasy. they don't get what they want in face-to-face negotiations with israel, so they're trying to create facts on the ground in the middle east by coming to the united nations. and having the u.n. declare an outcome. we don't know what the palestinian resolution will actually say. there's a good chance in addition to declaring a state, this will lay out the borders to israel's detriment. >> benjamin netanyahu praises them for going firmly in their corner. >> prime minister netanyahu learned from what happened to him in the clinton administration. he's trying to stay as close to the obama presidency as he can. that's fine rhetorically but substantively, the president's policies have been more anti-israel than any other
presidency since the creation of israel. >> the army is mowing down its own people that are peacefully protesting, why that wasn't a big lead in the headline, i am not sure. what about the question of not hammering iran about their acquisition of a nuclear weapon? >> right, he mentioned the iranian nuclear weapons program only in passing. you're quite right about syria. syria in effect is a satellite of iran. and the tehran regime is prepared to shed a lot of blood to keep him in power in damascus. >> iraq and turkey has called on assad to step aside but we haven't. thanks so much for joining us. >> thank you, brian. coming up next at 18 minutes past the hour, he can dish it but he sure can't take it. why julian assange is crying like a little baby over his autob autobiography that was hacked and released. military members risk their lives by protecting our freedom. who protects them when they
>> welcome back, everyone. 22 minutes after the top of the hour. nfl players jerome simpson and anthony collins detained by authorities after a package of marijuana delivered to simpson's kentucky home. the cincinnati bengals players haven't been arrested yet. 2.5 pounds of high grade weed were chased there from california. officers found more weed after searching the property. oops.
julian assange getting a taste of his own medicine. his memoir will go on sale in bookstores and on line without his approval. assange is reportedly enraged at the publishing company. they say assange wanted to cancel the book deal but since he didn't repay the advance, they went ahead with the publishing anyway. >> thanks, gretch. tonight is american -- rather, tonight, 15 american companies ranging from a small church in south dakota to ford motor company will be honored by the department of defense with the freedom award, this honor goes to businesses that strongly support employees who belong to the national guard and reserves and joining us right now is pat callahan of wells fargo and david mcguiness, the acting assistant secretary of defense for reserve affairs. good morning to both of you. >> good morning. >> david, let's start with you. what is this award program honoring different companies for? >> the employers support the national committee for employer support to the guard and reserve
was established quite sometime ago, back in the mid 1970's to educate and assist employers in understanding their relationships with employers who were members of the guard and reserve and as that program evolved, we realized that we have some wonderful employers out there that should be recognized at the national level. >> that's right. >> so -- >> one of those employers is wells fargo and pat is right there from wells fargo. what does your company do for members of the reserve, pat? >> we have thousands of team members who are members of the guard and reserve and when they're deployed, we make them whole with their salaries through two years of deployment. so, you know, make up the difference between their military pay and the pay they would have received at our company at wells fargo. >> ok, david, as mandated by law, an employer has got to keep somebody's job open, right? but they're not obligated to pay them the salary, are they? >> no, and there's a lot of things they're not obligated to do other than keep the job open. but these employers and employers across the country are
continuing to serve with the guards and reservists over the last 10 years. employers are part of the total force. they're serving and it's really impressive and the folks tonight are the best of the best that represent over 4,000 nominees from across the country and the nominations come from the members of the guard and reserve themselves. >> you know, pat, there is some who might say when you're looking at an appelication, thi person is a member of the guard. if they get called up, they'll have to be gone and we have to keep the job open. you pay them as well because why? >> because these are our good team members. these are people who are involved with their community, you know, they've got high integrity. they work hard and we want our team members and their families to be ok while these -- while these people are gone supporting the country and then we want them to come back. right now, we have 245 of our employees who are deployed. right now. >> very good. they're serving their nation and they're getting paid by wells
fargo. you can't beat that. >> yes. >> david and pat, thank you very much. you'll have a long day. you have a gala tonight at the ronald reagan building in washington at 7:30 so get dressed up and have a nice time tonight. >> thank you very much. >> thank you very much. >> that's terrific. all right, straight ahead, how old is too old to live with your mom and dad? you're about to find out from the parents who are suing their own son to get him the heck out of their house. and we've all heard stories about crazy neighbors but this one may take the cake. wait until you see the sign he posted in the yard. yeah, that's it right there. first, happy birthday to joan jett, the singer turns, guess what, yeah, she's 53.
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>> fox newschannel became a ratin ratings juggernaut that the world hasn't seen before. we have beaten them every single stinking month for the last five years. >> all right. we have been celebrating fox newschannel's 15th anniversary all week. remember, we started things in florida and last night there was a big party. >> look at that. >> that's water. >> that's straight vodka. >> at chelsea piers here on the west side of manhattan. it was a big night. and you just saw our founder, many of the on-air folks who were in attendance last night. it was a great party. >> also, there was an incredible video, great moments that have happened in the last 15 years in news as well as how it was covered and the different hair styles we've had through the times. >> exactly right. got the biggest laughs is when you saw shepard smith and bill
o'reilly's hair. we'll try to run the piece on the actual anniversary. >> yeah, so i have to tell you, my problem was, gretchen, because you stay in the city more than me is i didn't realize how hard it would be to get a cab there. so i sat there with alisyn who filled in for megan yesterday and we were just trying to get a cab. we can't get a cab and women wear high heels and can't maneuver as well so just sitting there, what do we do? >> how about walking? >> how about this? >> the number one rule of new york is flip-flops. >> that would be good. it's on 20th and the west side. what did we do? plan b. we hop in a pedicab down broadway and we're making tremendous time. and the pedicab gets a flat. he has to bring us back to 44th street and switch out pedicabs. we negotiate for a guy that has a radio in his pedicab.
>> not only did he have to pedal the bike to get you all the way over to the west side. >> sweating profusely. >> he had to get out of the pedicab and take a picture of the two of you mugging in the pedicab. >> we asked him. not as cheap as you might imagine. >> no, i've been ripped off. >> i knew what i was getting into. >> never go through central park in one of those. horses go through central parks and they leave certain things behind and when you're in that pedicab. >> sometimes pick it up. >> all over the place. >> nice, going out to dinner. >> worth the trouble, though, it was a great party. >> it was unbelievable and the magic of doing a morning show is you get in, you get out. you did a great job with the introduction and welcoming everyone. >> i introduced the head guy who came up with the fox newschannel. he had the one idea that changed everything. >> in the meantime, the clock is ticking now, a measure to keep the government running past september 30th has been shot down. it was a bit of a surprise. so now what? well, joining us live from the nation's capital is peter doocy. what can you tell us? >> well, gretchen, this
continuing resolution failed 230-195 in the house because a big chunk of democrats there didn't think it did enough to help disaster victims and a big chunk of republicans didn't think it did enough to cut back government spending and now, as you said, the clock keeps ticking to september 30th which is the deadline to pass this new bill or the government will shut down which is something that the senate majority leader harry reid is talking about even though his chamber did not vote on this bill yesterday. >> i heard the reports that senator mcconnell said there would be no shutdown. i'm not that sure. i'm not that sure. because the tea party driven house of representatives -- >> it is only harry reid that is talking about a threatening shutdown. it's not us. >> republican majority leader cantor said after this vote failed that everyone needs to relax. there won't be a government shutdown and a spokesman for his boss, speaker john boehner says they're going to continue to work on a responsible plan that can pass the house which is
interesting since congressman paul ryan says that g.o.p. leaders knew they didn't have the votes to pass this but brought it to the floor anyway so the house could work its will. across the aisle, democratic minority leader nancy pelosi has an idea. she thinks the republicans should bring to the floor and separately the bipartisan disaster relief package already passed by the senate. disaster relief was a big sticking point here and to that point, white house communications director dan pfeiffer tweeted yesterday. "we are pleased that the house of representatives today rejected efforts to put politics above the needs of communities impacted by disasters." and to avoid a shutdown, the house and the senate are going to need to agree on something by next friday. back to you guys. >> all right, thanks very much, peter, for being on top of that story for us. we appreciate it. well, guess what? we've talked a on this show about unions and pensions and some of those payouts that have been happening. and now it turns out that in the city of chicago, i believe it is, there are going to be 23
city workers who had modest incomes during the time that they served the city. well, now, they're going to end up making millions in their pensions and nobody is taking the responsibility for this. i'm wondering when they make those millions if they'll be in favor of the buffet rule now. if they make over a million bucks, they'll have to pay a little bit more. >> that would be if they made a million dollars in a year. and it looks like of the 23 retired union officials in chicago, they're going to pay out $56 million. now, here's the thing, this was written into the pension code back in 1991. nobody is taking credit for it today except those people who because a deal is a deal, they're going to get the money which is about three times what the average city employee would get. >> now, you watched when this math was thrown at governor christie. he went in there and said i got to talk to the unions. governor cuomo went in there and said i got to renegotiate. governor kasich did the same thing. now is the governor of illinois
going to have the courage and determination to go in there and take on the unions? so far the answer has been no, let's raise taxes which is why everybody is going across the border to ohio. >> let's look at how the salaries break down. $15,000 a year was their salary when they began. $115,000 a year, their pension at 51. those are the retired city workers but the amount they're going to collect is $4 million a piece by the time each of those city workers is 78. maybe they won't make the buffet rule in one year but they make it over time. >> that's a lot of money but at the same time, can you really claw back something that was written into the state? you know, a deal is a deal. going forward, i'm sure they're not going to have those kind of lucrative deals but still -- >> i'll say this -- >> they got it on -- in their deal. >> who do you like better? the workers that are working now that are going to be laid off or the ones that are working now.
>> times have changed. >> let's do other headlines right now. two u.s. hikers were freed during our show yesterday from iran. they're waking up free men for the first time in more than two years. >> whoo! whoo! >> you're looking at shane bauer and josh fattal arriving in oman. bauer kissing his fiancee sarah shourd who was released from iran last year. both bauer and fattal calling it the best week of their lives. >> we are so happy we are free and so relieved we are free. >> three years in prison is too long and we sincerely hope for the freedom of other political prisoners and other unjustly prisoned people in america and iran. >> bauer and fattal were supposed to spend eight more years in prison for allegedly
spying. they were now commuted after posting of the bail and mahmoud ahmadinejad's visit to new york. good move. >> mahmoud ahmadinejad prepares to take the stage in new york. he'll be speaking at 12:30 this afternoon. he's expected to back palestinian leaders in their push for statehood and say some other stuff that you probably won't agree with. >> a lawyer and his two sons seriously injured after a car bomb explodes and they're driving to football practice. >> we have a bad accident, my car blew up with two kids. they are bleeding. i need someone here now. >> no kidding. eric chapel was driving through monroe, michigan, with his two sons when his volvo stationwagon suddenly blew up! investigators say the bomb was planted in the middle of the car. his sons suffered bad burns but they're expected to be ok. motive for the attack -- not known. a car bomb on a volvo. >> forget about empty nest syndrome. one man having a real life case
of failure to launch. >> as long as you're up, son. >> come on, pop. you two have fun. >> you live with your parents? >> is that a problem? >> watch that movie on vacation, it's fantastic. just like his character, a man in italy is refusing to move out from a childhood home and now his parents are threatening a lawsuit to evict him. they say his 41-year-old son has a great job and fully capable of living on his own. let he continues to live with them rent free demanding home cooked meals and fresh laundry almost every day. what? 41? change the locks! something. >> well, by the way, for terry bradshaw not to win an emmy for that performance or an oscar, that's anti-fox. >> saw his bottom. >> right. you evidently see his butt which has been a dream of yours, steve. >> no kidding. >> i don't mind it. >> here's something else we want to tell you about.
there's a guy in colorado. he's got a sign on his yard that says he's a party animal. it's in brighton, colorado, and just imagine if you are the neighbor and you got this sign that says "warning three rottweilers, loud music, loud cars, anti-horse, fireworks. call for more information" right there. how would you like to be that guy's neighbor? the neighbor doesn't like it. >> no, because the neighbor is trying to sell their house actually and they say you can see this sign on his house when you look out of their master bedroom window. now, the thing is, i guess he has the right to put this sign up because that is his personal property. i don't know if that particular to has maybe a policy on that or not but what would you do? is that guy a jerk to his neighbors that can't sell their home. he said he would be willing to buy the home but they're asking too much money for it. so what would you do? do you think that's being a nice neighbor or not? >> it's in adams county near brighton so if you're there and you're willing to put up with the rottweilers and the anti-horse feeling in the
neighborhood, go ahead. you might have a purchase because they're looking to move. meanwhile, next on the rundown, an act of vandalism or something more? arabic writing appears on planes and it's been happening since february? >> that's right. and why your retirement savings could take a big hit this morning when the markets open. stuart varney right over there going to explain next. >> saw this yesterday, president obama put his hand up and accidentally blocked a u.n. member's face during a group photo. look at this. this is a real photo. why is he doing that? why is he doing that? if you think that's bad, check out what biden was doing. look at that.
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>> quick headlines now and stuart varney is here and in a good mood. eight people are dead as the result of a listeria outbreak in cantaloupes. most recent death occurred in maryland. other victims from new mexico, oklahoma and colorado where the tainted cantaloupes have been traced. several other states reporting folks getting sick there. the cdc says more people could become ill. that's covering your butt. southwestern airlines is investigating a chilling case of vandalism. the airline says arabic messages scrawled in chemicals have appeared on the underbelly of several jets. the graffiti first began appearing in february. southwest says the messages only appear after the plane's auxiliary power unit is turned on. >> we can do the math there. meanwhile, speaking of math, the federal reserve warning of more significant riffs to the economy. at the same time, policymakers are trying to come up with a plan that will keep the united states from slipping into a
recession again. >> i'm going to introduce him with a smile on my face today. he promises me some good news in this. stuart varney says the news, uh-oh, spells more trouble for your 401k. >> i'll get to the good news a little bit later but right now, i'm afraid the economy is an absolute mess. now, that would not be news generally speaking but it is news when ben bernanke, no less, said it. yesterday, he makes this big announcement about what he's going to do to fix the economy and hidden between the lines is this sentence, not sentence, expression. there is significant downside risk to the economy. he says the economy stalled. there's significant downside risk. interpret that as investors are, we're heading to recession. that's what the investment community is saying. >> ok. so what -- he didn't announce that thing where they were going to buy a whole bunch of qe3 it could have been. instead, what they're going to do is swap out long-term debt for short-term debt.
it's kind of confusing. >> he's going to take action to get long-term interest rates down even more. basically, that's what he's going to do. >> here's the good news. >> good news is that that is happening. the yield on the 10-year treasury, hate to get technical, but that's the baseline for mortgages 1.8% this morning. that means very soon, you really are going to see 3 1/2% 30-year fixed rate mortgages. but as you always point out, gretchen, you probably can't get the loan. right? >> if you don't have any money left, it's pretty tough to go buy a house or get the loan. i have to go back to the bad news in a moment. what's going to happen with the stock market today? you told us during the break that london is down 5% six hours ahead of us. >> yes, when you start talking in percentage terms, you know you have trouble. dow lost 300 points late yesterday and will open probably down another 200 points this morning. that will be a 500 point drop in just a few hours. that's very bad news. >> maybe it will bounce back towards the end of the day. look forward to watching on
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>> welcome back, everyone. tonight, the g.o.p. presidential field faces off in florida at the fox news google debate. in the latest poll, mitt romney and rick perry are running neck in neck with 25% of sunshine state voters choosing them as their favorite candidate. what to the frontrunners need to do tonight to break away from the g.o.p. pack? let's ask juan williams and andrea tantaros, both fox news contributors and co-hosts of "the five" here on fox. candidates are going to duke it out tonight and you're going to duke it out right now. round one, rick perry, what does he need to do? >> i think texas swagger won't be enough for florida. that comment of social security as a ponzi scheme, that's not good so i think he has to speak to the seniors. florida is a state with a lot of seniors about what a sincere man he is and demonstrate that he has ideas that go beyond the bravado. >> you're up. what is rick perry going to do? >> i agree. i don't think it's bad what he said about social security. it's dead on.
he needs to be more specific and offer a plan of what he would do and how he would reform it for the long term. simply saying it's a ponzi scheme not going to be enough for this crowd. >> do you think, juan, that romney care will come up tonight and rick perry will go after mitt romney? how would he explain that? would that be part of your advice for mitt romney? >> yeah, i think mitt romney has to be very clear that he's not tied into that moment in his life and especially, i think, for conservatives that he is bigger than that. he's a man of ideas but also, i think he's got to make it clear when it comes to things like israel which is in the news because of the u.n. session that he is competent in dealing with foreign affairs and then use that to demonstrate that gee, you know what? this guy perry doesn't know much about not only social security but foreign affairs and remember, there are a lot of jewish people in florida. >> andrea, i know that you sort of feel like mitt romney has to not do any harm to himself, what do you mean by that? >> he is the front runner in some polls and perry has not
been muching performing as well debates as romney. they are very wary of mitt romney. they have to be sure they won't let a congress drag him to the left like they did in massachusetts. that's how we got romney care. he needs to stay firm and punch hard at the president. he cannot just stand behind the podium and hide. >> michelle bachmann, some people argue that her hpv comment did a lot of damage. juan, what does she need to do tonight? >> wow, you know, i think she's going to continue to attack perry. now, remember, it's interesting if you look at the polls in florida that they're tied, perry and romney. it's a little different dynamic. bachmann is far behind and i think her hpv comment hurt her not only with the general public that says kids should get vaccinations but i think it has created the sense, you know what? she can't win which is the sense that romney is trying to create about perry but in the case of michelle bachmann, i think it's just about over here. >> you agree with that, andrea? >> i don't know if i'd say it's necessarily over but she cannot
afford anything less than an a plus performance. juan is right. the hpv comment, that antidote really hurt her. she can absolutely put herself ahead in polls and maybe even a better standing if she does better than both perry and romney. >> of course, the claim was that the hpv vaccine could cause mental retardation in young girls or boys. juan williams and andrea tantaros, i know you're going to be watching tonight. and we'll see if anyone listened to any of your advice. thanks so much. >> that would be news. >> not one. >> might be a fox news alert. all right. take care. see you soon. >> bye-bye. >> democrats keeping a close eye on tonight's debate as well and dnc chair debbie wasserman schultz says both romney and perry are bad for america. guess what, folks? she's going to join us again top of the hour. plus bill clinton is willing to pay the buffet tax. but says it won't work! we'll let him explain. what would bill clinton do right now if he were president? [ male announcer ] in blind taste tests, even ragu uss chose prego.
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>> good morning, everyone. hope you're going to have a fantastic day today. it is thursday, september 22, 2011. the race for 2012, could it be narrowing now? at least according to the latest polls and g.o.p. presidential hopefuls taking on each other again tonight and guess what? you can participate as well. we'll tell you exactly how to do it. >> what would bill clinton do? that's what a lot of people ask on a daily basis. the former president says he'll pay the buffet tax but does he think it's a good idea? you might be surprised by his answer. >> you sure buffet tax and not buffet? he's gone all beefy. >> i'll check this in the break. >> here's r.e.m. >> they're singing it's the end of the world as we know it. michael stipe retiring.
what does that mean for r.e.m.? we'll tell you straight ahead. "fox & friends" hour two for a thursday starts now. >> good morning, everyone. are we going to listen to a little r.e.m. now? >> you know what? because we might as well start getting ready for the best of albums and looking back, listening and remembering because it's a very pained group right now who broke up and remember the first time when you broke up with your first band? the first time really hurts. r.e.m. has been together for three decades. >> just like that. for the next two hours, an r.e.m. perspective. >> we're shelving all politics! >> somehow this is not going to affect my day today. >> you got to be kidding me. i might call in sick. too late, i'm already here. >> let's do your headlines for you right now. some serious news late last night, convicted cop killer troy davis was in fact executed after all nine supreme court justices
voted to uphold his sentence. davis was strapped to a gurney in georgia's death chamber and given a lethal injection and pronounced dead at 11:08 p.m. his last words directed to the family of the man that he murdered. >> he said that he was not personally responsible for what happened that night. that he did not have a gun. he said to the family that he was sorry for their loss. >> and in livingston, texas, lawrence brewer was also executed by lethal injection. remember this story? it was a horrible one. he was one of those three white supremacists who killed a black man named james bird by dragging him from the back of a pickup truck. now, a developing story overnight. a taliban leader who lured 30 american troops to their deaths last month in afghanistan in cha chopper, he's dead today. nato says the dead taliban leader lured our troops to their death by tipping them off on a taliban meeting.
their chopper was taken down by a rocket propelled grenade. now open for business, the islamic community center park 51 as it's known opened with an art exhibit with pictures of children. the developer admits he's to blame for the uproar about the mosque saying his biggest mistake was not including family members of the september 11th attacks. many of them consider the mosque just a block from ground zero an insult. i don't know if you would have included them or invited them they would have felt any differently about that. >> speaking of invites, there's a new invitation tonight at 9:00 will be the fox news google debate and you're going to see a new face on the stage, former new mexico governor gary johnson will be in the line-up and there's our line-up for the host tonight, join us tonight at 9:00. >> one of the most important things about florida. there's so many important things about it but the fact that how will the independent voters be swayed this time around? if you go back in history to 2008, 52% of them decided to vote for barack obama.
but now in the recent poll, it shows that independents, only 33% of them agree with his job performance. 61% aren't that satisfied. will those independent voters go to one of those nine candidates on the stage today? >> overall, when they did an independent poll, i can't remember the company, it looks like mitt romney is in front in florida. john mccain got the governor's endorsement and then closer to the nomination. keep in mind, too, in florida, i know it changes a lot especially with so many people going there, there's no state tax like derek jeter, democrats make up 41% of the state and republicans just 36% of the state. but the independents, if the republicans are going to win, that's who they're going to get. it looks like the president is vulnerable. i'll ask debbie wasserman schultz from florida. >> one of the other reasons they go to florida is live at the villages where you can golf free for life. why are so many defecting from the obama camp?
it's not just the way they're handling the economy but they have questions about his overall leadership. >> of course one of the other huge things they'll probably discuss besides health care tonight and social security, immigration also a big issue in florida. >> all right. 5 minutes after the hour. tonight's g.o.p. debate will be the most interactive ever. peter doocy live now in washington with how viewers can take part in the debate. >> you said it's the most interactive. it's got to be the coolest debate of the election season so far. all the republican candidates will be up on a stage in orlando talking but anybody else that wants to get involved can do so from their home computer or their work computer, just by typing you tube.com/fox news is where you want to be. you can stream some pregame coverage there for half-hour. and then the big show starts at 9:00 sharp and that's when you can vote on polls that are going to pop up on the right-hand of the computer screen where you get up to the minute results and you can comment on everything that people are saying or aren't
saying or what you think they should be saying in real time below the live stream, you want to click on the have your say section and none of this is going to stop, even during commercial breaks and after it's all done, you get to play pundit. >> all of the questions -- questions and answers will be up on the you tube channel. you'll be able to watch each clip and vote on how you think the candidates did and in that way, give your feedback to how you think the debate went. >> so as he -- something else that he said is the 21st century version of the spin room now is the internet so you don't have to be on set with bret and megan and chris and shannon in florida to be heard. you tube.com/fox news. check it out during the day but make sure you're there at 8:30 tonight. guys? >> thank you very much. already 20,000 people have submitted questions and they voted on 100,000 different things. >> wow. fantastic. >> so the candidates already talking to the florida voters because they've been down there
for the last couple of days. so one of the main things that they've been sparring about from the last debate, of course, between romney and perry was the issue of social security. remember, rick perry in his book "fed up" said it's a ponzi scheme. he continued to follow that same track when he was up on stage the last time around. and the other thing he said is maybe the states should have independent control over how this all works. well, mr. romney took him to task over that. >> what would happen to the social security trust fund if you sent social security back to the states? how would they guidivide it? would it be florida's responsibility to meet the social security needs of everyone coming to florida? how would you deal with people moving all over the place. what happens, by the way, if one of those states got in financial trouble and raided their fund? i believe in social security. there are tens of millions of americans who rely upon social security.
to meet their needs. i want to protect it. i want to save it. >> that's the old tactic that the democrats used back through the years to try to scare the senior citizens and that's irresponsible. if anyone on that stage, i mean, that's a republican and wants to be a republican nominee is trying to scare our seniors with this issue that somehow or another, i'm going to do away with social security. that's just not -- it's not appropriate. it's irresponsible. >> there you've got the governor of texas on last night's hannity program. he appeared live and exclusively and he also talked a little bit about mitt romney and he hit the former governor of the commonwealth of massachusetts on what many said is his achilles heel. that's romney's health care plan. >> we don't need to nominate obama lite. we don't need to nominate someone who is going to blur the lines between president obama and our nominee. this election is about the future of america, about who is going to get america back
working again. and i think i can handle that part of the job creation side of it as well as anybody that will be on that stage tomorrow night. >> ok, you're talking about florida. when it comes to new hampshire, mitt romney now has a 27 point lead over the closest candidate and mitt romney in the great state of new hampshire is in fourth place. >> right. yeah. no mitt romney is kicking butt in new hampshire. >> right. and governor perry is in fourth place. >> someone gaining steam there is john huntsman. bill clinton weighed in, all the world leaders said while i'm here, why don't i drop by and see what bill clinton needs help including the president of the united states. bill clinton, of course, in the milled of t middle of the news and every time an initiative takes place for him, there's a major news story. he was asked about the buffet rule that the president announcesed on monday, would it be effective to take billionaires and blame them for what's going on? let's listen to what he had to
stay. >> whatever you think about this millionaire surcharge, i don't really care because i would pay it but it won't affect me because i already pay the minimum income because i live in new york. but it's ok with me. i'll pay more. but it won't solve the problem. >> that's amazing, actually, i don't know if that's gotten enough press. bill clinton saying that he doesn't know if it would solve the problem and he went on to say that he found president obama's approach to the deficit "a little confusing." why hasn't that gotten more press? i mean, bill clinton, a moderate democrat from arkansas, he would probably be doing this situation that we find ourselves in right now differently than president obama. that, i find, very fascinating and find it even more fascinating that it hasn't gotten more press. >> how about this? he says he personally doesn't think we should be raising taxes and cutting spending until we get this economy off the ground. that flies in the face of the plan! >> you can't agree with the plan and actually make those statements. >> is that a precursor to hillary 2016? >> he says he'll support
whatever moves she makes and hasn't ruled it out. >> and he says that hillary is the ablest person in my generation and you know who he thinks could wind up with the nomination on the republican side? newt gingrich. >> wow, by the way, if you're ever asked to describe your wife, you want to use a different term than ablist. you might want to use something a little more flowery. >> like what? >> i don't know. she's beautiful. she's nice. she's radiant. >> what about smart? i think that's what he meant by that. >> she's smart and she's able. >> i'm not sure -- hope she's not watching. >> my wife is smart. >> that would be -- i think a lot of women would be like high five you on that one. >> i don't know. if you introduce your wife by saying she's smart, it's almost like why, did you hear she's stupid? i mean, it's almost like you're counteracting what you're saying. i'm trying to say if you happened to find someone you're dating consistently -- >> brian, do you need some rope down there in that hole? >> all i'm saying is don't describe your significant other as able. >> there you go. >> kind of like saying someone
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ultimately, it is the israelis and the palestinians who must live side by side. ultimately, the israelis and the palestinians, not us, who must reach agreement on issues that divide them. >> joining us right now is the dnc chairwoman, florida congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz who has at least two jobs and is quite busy. >> three if you count being a mom. >> and that's the hardest one. >> right. >> congresswoman, first off, i read "the new york times" today and i was surprised by their assessment. being that nicolas sarkozy comes out after this and says, we should give them that vatican like status. they say for the first time the u.s. is sharing our lead for middle east peace. do you see it that way? and is that a concern of yours? >> absolutely not. i was -- look, as a jewish member of congress who brings my love of israel to work with me every day, i was so proud of president obama who forcefully
and with determination in front of the entire world assembled declared that america has an unshakeable commitment to israel and that we will only be able to achieve peace like what happened in sudan, like in northern ireland through negotiated -- negotiated bilateral discussions and negotiations and that's the only way that that could happen and that was an incredibly important gauntlet for the president to throw down and i hope that through both the public statements and the behind-the-scenes negotiations that the palestinians will recognize that only through direct bilateral negotiations will both israel and the palestinians be able to live side by side. >> but congresswoman, many people -- congresswoman, many people argue that the reason that we got to this point where the president laid down the gauntlet yesterday, maybe he should have done this before. for taking it this far with
regard to his policies with israel. you have that recent election where it went to a republican and many people say that was because of the president's policies on israel. how do they get past that? >> oh, gretchen, just because you say many people say that doesn't mean that's true. >> 72% -- i want to correct you on that. i'm not going to be attacked on that. 72% of voters in the new york district 9, 72% of them said that it had to do with his policies on israel. that's why they voted for bob turner. >> well, in terms of what jews across this country believe, overwhelmingly, jewish voters support president obama and his policies and the israeli leadership consistently before yesterday and including yesterday have said that president obama has been an unshakeable ally of israel. in fact, the conservative leader, the foreign minister lieberman yesterday said yesterday was the speech of an ally. there has been widespread praise
for president obama's policies before yesterday and including yesterday and so i think that that is absolutely not the case. and it will be demonstrated in the election next year that the natural home for jewish voters, both domestically in terms of policy and our israel policy is the democratic party and president obama as our candidate. >> all right. let's talk -- let's move on to the google/fox news debate in your home state of florida. they're already out saying that romney and perry, bad for america. of course you're on the other side. i wouldn't expect you to say anything else. >> well, as a floridian and somebody who represents tens of thousands of senior citizens, the fact that mitt romney and rick perry have essentially shunned social security and medicare, have declared either it a ponzi scheme or that it should be privatized and that medicare should be turned into a
voucher system and ended as we know it, increase the costs for seniors in my state and across the country by more than $6,000, i really don't expect there to be an overwhelming embrace by floridians, particularly seniors. >> and congresswoman, could i ask you, too, about the independents. the numbers are staggering. only 33% approve of the job the president is doing among independent voters. he got 52% of the vote and took your state last time. what has happened to the independent? why are they so disenchanted with the man in the white house? >> barack obama will take my home state of florida again because whether you're an independent, a democrat or a moderate republican, floridians understand that president obama has been fighting hard to create jobs, to get this economy turned around. we need to work together and we need the republicans to stop allowing themselves to be controlled by the extremists and the tea party. that's why he'll win florida. >> all right. debbie wasserman schultz with that prediction. that bold prediction right here on "fox & friends."
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when you woke up, what did they say to you? >> that was the tough part, not knowing what i was going into when they put me under. i woke up, it was great news. stage 1a, it was cancer. they were able to get it. it was contained and it was only a couple of weeks later that i found out, kind of that second blow that i was going to have to chemotherapy. >> so you go through nine weeks of this treatment. i know one of your greatest concerns was the impact that you losing your hair was going to have on your child. why? >> i think that's scary for any mom to think and especially a new mom to think my child might be scared of me or that he might not want to hug mommy and that just killed me, it ate me up so to be able to find a program that helps you deal with your appearance and helps make that a little bit easier was so wonderful. >> and you found that through the look good, feel better cancer patient support program. and you're being honored tonight as a dream girl, right? >> yes, i feel like i'm honoring other women because really, it's the women that went
before me and did this. went bald, were proud of it, embraced it. that's so important and the look good, feel better program allows women all across the country and even across the world to be a part of this program and find that normalcy in our lives. while we're dealing with cancer, while we're dealing with the effects of chemo, finding that normalcy with make-up and all the things that we need during that time. >> last year, our very own fox news pentagon reporter jennifer griffin was honored at this event. she beat a stage 4 breast cancer. and there she is right there. and so i believe she will be there tonight. what advice do you give to other women now? i mean, you were so young. totally unexpected that you would get cancer. >> well, i think because my background is in women's health and fitness anyways, it's just renewed my passion for this topic. and i tell women, early detection can and does save lives so go to your exams, get your screenings, know your body because there's not a screening or a test for every single type of cancer so know your body.
be your own best health advocate. >> ok. by the way, that picture of you with your son when you are bald is so beautiful. >> thank you. >> he makes it beautiful. >> yeah, nobody will ever forget. look at this. beautiful shot. nobody will ever forget the wonderful job that you did as a gymnast, the most decorated gymnast in the world. shannon miller. so great to see you. have fun tonight. >> thank you so much. >> one mom that is abandoned her kids more than 30 years ago and now she wants them to open their wallets for her. does she have a right to their money? and the rest of america needs to watch their wallets, too, because that's the woman the president picked to keep wall street in line. she says nobody gets rich on their own. so successful people should share the wealth. huh? we'll report and you can decide. [ female announcer ] so you think your kids are getting enough vegetables? maybe not. v8 v-fusion juice gives them a full serving of vegetables
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>> to be part of something that is number one is absolutely amazing considering i'm not really a number one guy. i didn't go to the best college. i wasn't ranked highest in my class. really nothing about me is number one and to be part of this magic is really tremendous. and to have steve doocy recognize me in this sea of people and acknowledge me not with a hello, brian, but with a head nod. that's all i needed is a head nod. that means he knew who i was and that was special. >> you were on the way to the
bathroom. >> that was so long ago. >> when you shave at 3:00 in the morning you probably need to shave again at 6:00 in the evening. that's me. and that's steve doocy. steve, that was actually water, right? >> it was water on the way in. last night, to celebrate 15 years of the fox newschannel, we had a great big party at chelsea pier. i think this was the biggest celebration of the beginning of fox news in the history and i was lucky enough to -- >> talking to you. >> he was. and he's a funny guy. and i had the privilege of introducing the guy who started fox news, chairman roger ails and then he gave a very funny and inspiring speech once again as he always does. >> right. >> we're celebrating as we continue. "fox & friends" was the first show to celebrate the 15th anniversary, we're at the villages in florida on monday. if you continue to watch throughout the next six weeks or so, a bunch of other shows here on fox are going to be going to different cities throughout the nation. i think vegas is on the list, atlanta, phoenix and chicago, stay tuned for all of that. in meantime, you might recognize
this name, elizabeth warren. she was in charge of setting up the consumer financial protection bureau. she's been on this show before and now she's going to take on scott brown in massachusetts for that senate seat. she's going to run on the democratic side. now, you want to pay close attention to what she said about class warfare which has been a hot topic based on some of the president's policies and plans in the last week. and whether or not she believes that we should actually have class warfare in our united states of america. listen to this. >> there's nobody in this country who got rich on his own. nobody! you built a factory out there, good for you. but i want to be clear. you moved your goods to market on the roads the rest of us paid for. you hired workers the rest of us paid to educate. you were safe in your factory because of police forces and fire forces that the rest of us paid for.
you didn't have to worry that bands would come and seize everything at your factory and hire someone to protect against this because of the work the rest of us did. now, look, you built a factory and it turned into something terrific or a great idea, god bless. keep a big hunk of it. but part of the underlying social contract is you take a hunk of that and pay forward for the next kid who comes along. >> that's not even the question. the real question is how much? because we know that millionaires are paying 30%. we know that people in the middle class according to the irs paid 15%. that's half as much. how much do you want? and then don't make americans, if you're giving away 50% or 60%, you can't go tell an american entrepreneur to go out there and risk their capital if they're going to be giving away $6 of every $10 they make. >> those people who start those companies in those factories are creating jobs. i mean, aren't they giving back to the community by creating jobs first?
i mean, that's a totally -- that's another different kind of philosophy that you create jobs and then you also owe those people more money. >> right. and speaking of jobs, you would have thought that she would have been the one to head up that consumer financial protection bureau that could actually have made some big changes but according to that new ron suskind book, she was thrown under the bus by tim geithner and the people at treasury and administration. even if you read the book, it's right in the beginning, it talks about how she thought that this president could be transformational and change everything. but really, didn't want to change regulations regarding all the stuff that she -- she could have actually shook things up. they said, not her! somebody else. anybody but liz. auto autoed it's going to be a tough battle. she and scott brown are pulling about dead even right now. there could be fireworks later today. the iranian president mahmoud ahmadinejad is scheduled to speak and that could be just the beginning. ty hernandez from our channel 5 here in new york is live at the
u.n. hey. >> hey, good morning. he does have a knack for being controversial. even before he opens his mouth. in fact, there's a protest scheduled for 11:00 close to the united nations here. he speaks at 12:30. then there will be another protest outside of his hotel at 2:00 so he comes in with an expectation of, perhaps, being able to throw some fuel into the fire here. for an already tense session at the united nations, the general assembly is trying to deal with the palestinian authority's intention of putting in a request for u.n. membership. that would essentially force the world to recognize palestinian statehood without any direct negotiations between the palestinian authority and israel and it's a very dangerous slope as far as president obama is concerned. he spent his time at the podium urging the palestinian authority not to do that. but at this point, there's no indication that they are not going to go forward. the u.s., of course, has that option of vetoing the request outright. it would put an end to it. there's concern that the u.s. does that, there could be a
backlash of violence in the middle east so a very precarious situation today. and mahmoud ahmadinejad's arrival here at the u.n. to speak is not putting anyone at ease. that's the latest from here at the u.n. let's take it back to you guys. >> all right, thank you very much for the live report from the east side of manhattan. >> now to the other headlines for a thursday. two u.s. hikers waking up free men this morning for the first time in more than two years. >> [cheering] >> you're looking at shane bauer and josh fattal arriving in oman hours after being freed from iran. you see bauer kissing sarah shourd. she was first released last year. both bauer and fattal calling it the best week of their lives. >> we are so happy we are free and so relieved we are free. two years in prison is too long and we sincerely hope for the freedom of other political prisoners and other unjustly
imprisoned people in america and iran. >> bauer and fattal were supposed to spend eight more years in prison for allegedly spying. >> a lawyer and his two sons seriously injured as a car bomb explodes while they're driving to football practice. look at this. >> we have a bad accident. my car blew up with two kids. they are bleeding. i need someone here now. >> eric chapel was driving through monroe, michigan with his sons when his volvo stationwagon suddenly blew up. investigators say the bomb was planted in the middle of the car. his sons suffered bad burns but expected to be ok. motive for the attack not yet known. >> meanwhile, brand new video we will show you very shortly. >> all right. instead, let's listen to this. a canadian woman who abandoned her three kids over 30 years ago is suing them for parental support. ken anderson says he hasn't seen his mom since he was 15 years old. still, she's asking him and his
two siblings for $750 a month citing british columbia's family relations act, a law that holds adult children financially responsible for their parents should they ever be incapable of supporting themselves. anderson is outraged by the lawsuit and he's now asking a judge to throw it out. >> all right. straight ahead, president obama wants to invest billions of your dollars in green energy. so where are the jobs? there aren't too many of them so far. former michigan governor jennifer granholm joins us next to defend her push for alternative energy. at her side, her husband. >> plus, they hit the road in the worst weather imaginable. we're meeting the ladies of ice road truckers. are you ready for that? >> of course. ♪
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marijuana were tracked there from california. officers found more pot after searching the property. and you'll have to wait a few more days to get your first glimpse of the iphone 5. reports are apple won't unveil the latest version until october 4th and the new phone won't go sale until a few weeks after that. apple has yet to confirm the date. >> billions in taxpayer dollars have been invested in green energy. people are still wondering, ok, all that money, where are the jobs? former michigan governor jennifer granholm was a staunch advocate of alternative energy and tried to push her state in that direction. she is here with a brand new book she's written with her husband. "the governor's story, the fight for jobs and our economic future." good morning to both of you. nice to have you here on the curvy couch. when it was time for you to try to get re-elected, you were punished at the polls and one of the reasons is because michigan
has got a terrible problem with unemployment. >> right. right. and we've had the highest unemployment rate for much of the last decade because of the structural nature of our economy so tied to automotive, so tied to manufacturing. and the whole reason why we wrote this book is because what's happening with the country happened to michigan first. we never came out of the 2002 recession because of globalization and the movement of jobs to countries that are developing and have low wages. so for the rest of the nation, it's a cautionary tale. >> sure. >> and so one of the things you did and you've been on this program during your administration a number of times talking about different job initiatives and, unfortunately, they didn't really pan out for you. >> whoa, whoa, whoa. >> ultimately at the end of the day, look at the unemployment rate. >> so here's the deal. this is really interesting, so glad we're on because for the first five years of our administration, 4 1/2 years, i tried all of the prescriptions that many have said in the past which is to cut taxes, cut government. by the time i left, the size of
michigan's government was 48th in the country in terms of per capita. we cut more from spending than any state in the country as a percentage by far. and yet, it still didn't turn things around the way everybody thought. so what did work was finally when we were able to co-invest with the private sector and with the federal government to be able to create public/private partnerships that did, in fact, create jobs and in fact, the battery industry is one example of that. >> and dan, your wife's administration invested heavily in batteries. and you look at, you know, the solyndra deal could be just the tip of the spear, tip of the iceberg, whatever. when you look at the number of jobs created, $5 million per job. is that too much? i think so. >> i mean, you can grab figures here or there and see where you get with it. >> i mean, it's simple math. we spent this much, we got this many jobs on the promise of a the lot of jobs. it's $5 million. >> well, i mean, i don't think it is simple math.
i think a lot of times depending on the kind of industry you're in, you're going to spend a lot of capital to create jobs. one of the things that's lost in the solyndra story and the focus of this book is that we have to really focus on jobs and so in the solyndra case, it was a loan guarantee and there was a lot at stake. it was up front money. in many of the cases, almost everything that the governor invested in, my wife invested in, they were credits for jobs. the money never came. there was no taxpayer money at risk until the jobs were created which is really, i think, an important thing but somebody's got to be watching out for jobs, steve, we can't watch all these energy jobs go to korea, singapore, china. >> absolutely. if you had one do over, what would it be? >> oh -- >> ok, if you had 10 do overs. >> every day, i have a do over. >> i would keep him, though. i overpromised in one state of the state address where i said you'll be blown away by the amount of jobs that we were creating and i would say to every politician, don't
overpromise especially in an economy like this. but you got to place bets. this one -- you have to place bets on innovative technologies and if you place no bets, you will lose every time. >> sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. >> and that's really the key -- the other illustration from solyndra. >> sure. the book is called "a governor's story". governor granholm and dan, former first gentleman, thank you very much for joining us. >> appreciate it. >> thanks for having us. >> great. straight ahead, snow and ice no problem. these women go trucking in all kinds of weather. good morning, ladies. get your motors running. the ladies behind the wheel of the big rigs on "ice road truckers." here in the studio. [ male announcer ] heard this one? listen to this. three out of four americans don't get enough vegetables.
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>> all right, the answer to the trivia question, scott baio. i didn't know that. the winner is from pennsylvania. if you see scott, tell him we said hi. haven't seen him in a while. treacherous roads and cold weather are an everyday moment of life. we're joined by two of those women who refused car service and wanted to drive themselves. they got behind the wheel of those big rigs here with us. welcome to both of you. >> thank you. >> all right. first off, you are on two shows. "ice road truckers" and "deadliest roads" correct? >> yes. >> we have ice road truckers season finale comes up on sunday at 9:00 on the history channel. what are we going to be seeing? >> you're going to be seeing a lot of action. it's a big challenge to drive the roads. >> this is a career you chose, right, lisa?
>> yeah. i worked very hard to get on -- to be a truck driver. i worked really hard to do that. >> so you're doing it and now all of a sudden, they factor in your reality show. what has it been like? you have this -- you say that after a couple of days if you're not in the truck, you get antsy and want to get back in driving. what has television done for your life or career? >> tv has made a lot of people aware of what we do out there, too, as well as in my personal life, it's brought a lot of opportunities that i didn't expect. a lot of fun stuff and a lot of, oh, bad stuff, too, but fun -- a lot of fun stuff. >> when you think of truck driver, you think of guys. why are you laughing? you do a lot of fun stuff. >> i can relate what she means about being on the show and we take our jobs seriously. and we work hard. a lot harder than the guys to get where we are. and there's some negative things where people judge us -- like judging a book by its cover. >> this is a man's industry, isn't it? >> yeah. it's changing, though. i mean, like women are getting in trucking a lot more.
and like she said, it's a dream and you can make a reality and women are starting to see if they can do anything. >> all right. i think also, too, you go out and you'll reach communities where when the winter comes, they're going to be out of reach so you're delivering goods to them that's going to supply them through the summer, correct? >> yeah, it's kind of funny, when you're delivering like dirt bikes and lawn mowers in the middle of winter because that's the only time they get it in the wintertime. >> you're the one who shows up. now, lisa, with you you're on the deadliest roads. tell us some of the deadliest roads and which ones did you just drive across? >> actually the season finale for "ice road truckers" is also the premiere for "deadliest roads" and we are driving the most dangerous road in the world. >> look at. this you're on a cliff right there. that doesn't get you nervous? >> that is the death road in beliva. that's the most dangerous road in the world. >> when you're actually on it, what is it like? >> when you're on it, it's a lot more real. not only is there a cliff side
but a deep ditch against the rocks, you can't go into the rocks either, you'll fall into the rocks. there is points on that road where you can't help but hang your duals over the edge because the truck does not fit on the road. there was a good 20 feet of dirt that i just knocked completely down off the -- >> wow. >> and you go really fast and then you go oh, my gosh. you got to see what i just did. i wasn't saying nothing while it was happening. >> you still love it? >> love it. it's the funnest season i've ever filmed. funnest thing i've ever done. >> wow. thanks so much. congratulations. season 5 finale airs sunday at 9:00, 8:00 central, of course, and season 2 of "deadliest roads" as you mentioned premieres right after at 10:00. it debuts. >> thank you. >> thanks to both of you. coming up straight ahead, some are calling it the poster -- some are calling it the poster child for crony capitalism, playing favorites with your tax dollars and now, we're learning more about one of the investors in lightsquared. wait until you see what michelle malkin has dug up. she's here at the top of the
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>> gretchen: top of the morning to you. it's thursday, september 22, 2011. i'm gretchen carlson gretch. the stage is set for the big debate. the top two capped dates in a statistical tie. you might want to say it's game on. >> steve: meanwhile, may god bless your soul. those were the final words from the man convicted of killing a police officer moments before he was executed. you will hear what the victim's family had to say back shortly. >> brian: okay. a big time victory in the war on terror. the terrorist who lured 30 american troops to their deaths pays the price. "fox & friends" starts right now.
>> gretchen: good morning, everyone. hope you're having a great thursday. make sure watch the debate tonight. let's start your thursday with headlines. last night, convicted cop killer troy davis was executed after all nine supreme court justices voted to uphold the sentence. he was strapped to a gurney in georgia's death chamber and given a lethal injection ask pronounced dead at 11:08 p.m his last words to the family of the man he murdered. >> he said he was not personally responsible for what happened that night, that he did not have a gun. he said to the family that he was sorry for their loss. >> gretchen: and in livingston, texas, lawrence brewer was executed by lethal injection. he was one of three white supremists who killed a black man named james byrd by dragging him from the back of a pick up truck. a developing story.
taliban leader who lured 30 american troops to their death in that chopper last month in afghanistan has been killed. he was killed by a nato air strike. nato says the dead taliban leader lured our troops to their deaths by tipping them off about a taliban meeting. their chopper then taken down by a rocket propelled grenade. iranian president ahmadinejab just down the block in new york city this morning. he'll be speaking at the u.n. general assembly in a few hours. he's expected to back palestinian leaders in their push for statehood. police already preparing for anti-ahmadinejab protests outside the u.n. it's a reunion 77 dog years in the making. you're looking at duncan, a dog back with his original owners in las vegas nearly 11 years after running away from home. the family says he was gone for so long, they almost had forgotten about him. >> never thought i would see it. not in a million years. but life is strange. you never know what's going to
happen. >> gretchen: it turns out that duncan found a new home during all that time, living with an elderly woman for ten years before she died. that's when her daughter discovered duncan had a microchip all along and returned him to his rightful owners. those are your headlines. you mean to tell me during the ten years they didn't take him to a vet and he didn't see it? >> brian: i might take off a week and try to get to the bottom of it. >> gretchen: let me know the details. >> steve: president obama heading to ohio today to push his $450 billion jobs plan and one of the stops is raising a few eyebrows. ed henry is live at the white house with more. all right. so he's heading toward a bridge in cincinnati, ed. >> that's right. good morning. it's interesting because this is another example of the president going to republican turf to try to push his economic plan. he'll be at the bridge, something that's outdated and needs a lot of work. it connects the home state of speaker john boehner, ohio, with
the home state of senator minority leader mitch mcconnell, kentucky. and the president's spokesman says look, this is not about politics, not about going to republicans. it's just about highlighting the nation's infrastructure needs. take a listen. >> this is the number one priority of the american people and it also happens to be the number one priority of this president. so if you're asking me if by going to this bridge are we hoping to draw some attention to this urgent need, the answer is unequivocally yes. >> republican lawmakers who represent these districts in cincinnati on the ohio side as well as on the kentucky side say this administration has taken too long to deal with these infrastructure needs and point out that even if they started work on this project, it would take years to get it fixed. this is hardly a shovel ready project in their eyes. congressman, republican of ohio, had this to say about the president's visit. >> he certainly is -- we welcome the president to cincinnati.
we welcome his interest in the bridge, even though it's a little late. there is clearly politics involved here. >> yes, there is politics. surprise, surprise. >> so this has been a couple of weeks since the president first pitched this new economic plan. he's been looking for momentum. he hasn't quite gotten that yet. the big question now is going to be whether or not this trip is going to bridge the differences with republicans or whether this will be another bridge to nowhere, guys. >> steve: all right. ed henry, who is happy today because his beloved yankees, baseball team, won the pennant last night. >> that's right. the red sox are putting new meaning into the term shovel ready. [ laughter ] >> brian: good one! >> gretchen: that was a good dig. all right. we'll see you sometime soon. let's bring in michelle malkin now. fresh off of her trip to florida with us on monday and she's back in colorado springs. good morning to you. >> good morning. not enough time to get a tan, but it was a great time. >> brian: you got such a warm welcome. you had 5,000 people who absolutely love you. did you know that?
>> it was amazing. i hope i have enough energy to sustain being like that like the kids of the villages were. >> gretchen: they are. let's talk about what ed henry was just talking about, which was the bridge in ohio. interested in your reaction and the president choosing ohio to go to. >> yeah. ed mentioned that even if this thing were funded, it would take several years for any job to actually present themselves. john merline reported that if you look at the conditions in the obama jobs bill, it's not even clear that that project would qualify for the funding that obama is putting forward. i think it's just another example of how he has used the whole infrastructure problem and exploited it for potential political gain. but i think it's very transparent that so many of the issues with slow infrastructure
progress have to do with big labor and all of the big labor red tape and green tape that's involved in getting these things underway. and then, of course, there is the increased costs that so many of these union exclusive rules, the wage rules, the contracting rules that obama has put in place by executive order that favor big labor and will not put more people to work. let's remember that 85% of the construction work force is nonunion and they would be denied access to most of these projects that are not going to happen. it's not going to happen. >> brian: i think the administration is misfiring, putting him in front of a bridge that won't be rebuilt. putting him in front of a company that outsources its manufacturing to costa rica. why aren't they researching and doing background to not embarrass the president? >> yeah. you wonder where the due diligence is. then there is, of course, the peril for any site this president visits on his so-called noncampaign visits on
behalf of the country where he has this reverse midas touch. there is a whole litter of these companies that he's visited, promoted and then gone bankrupt. >> steve: yeah. one of the companies that the administration is promoting is this lightsquared and it's a mobile broad band company whose product may or may not interfere with gps systems and in particular, our military's. i understand you crossed trails with the ceo and he challenged you and you just fought right back? >> yeah. well, philip falcone, the founder of lightsquared, which he acquired from a previous company, has been on quite a pr tear and he's been on our air waves here and he's done a very forceful and aggressive job of trying to defend his company. this is in light of the disclosures by the daily beast last week, eli lake, that
general shelton, other military folks, people inside the government -- i mean, we're not talking about republican opponents. we're talking about military, civilian, aviation experts who have raised long-time concerns about the interference that this technology would cause. and philip falcone is denying it has anything to do with politics. but as many people pointed out and i pointed out in my column, obama has quite a long history with this company's predecessor. he invested some $9,100,000 back in 2005 and it was at a very curious, weird time in this company's history because he just so happened, coincidentally, to invest this money on the same day that a favorable fcc decision was announced that has basically presaged the entire thing we're seeing now. and then he sold the stock at a time when the company was going through all sorts of
mechaniccations, a proxy fight. i talked to industry experts who have raised their eyebrows quite high about the timing of that decision and, of course, the fact that so many of obama's political donors at the time were entangled in this mess. >> gretchen: that's yet another story that you continue to follow. i want to ask you about these 50 coal plants that are closing now with regard to the epa's regulatory -- i know what you deem it to be, madness, but what can you tell us about that? >> yeah. this is just another part of the huge obama jobs death toll. i mean, and the incongruity of this president going around and talking about the need for jobs when his administration and his epa rules are strangling job, killing companies, hurting american workers and their families on a daily basis. and of course, we've had obama acknowledge the job killing impact of his own epa.
he finally rejected the ozone regulations. but in this case, the coal industry apparently does not deserve the same kind of protection and promotion as all of obama's other favored failed green boondoggles. >> brian: we are the saudi arabia of cool. >> steve: that's where our electricity comes from. michelle, thank you very much. i know you've had a busy week. we thank you very much for making the long trip to florida. >> my pleasure and honor. take care. >> steve: see you next week. >> gretchen: coming up, car insurance, flood insurance, now mortgage insurance? do you need it? bob massi, our legal and real estate guru is on deck. >> brian: and he can dish it, but he sure can't take it. why julian assange is running like a little baby against the release of his autobiography. you have secrets? sorry. >> steve: boo hoo. [ male announcer ] in blind taste tests, even ragu uss chose prego.
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>> steve: you ever buy a house and they tell you whether or not you need pmi, private mortgage insurance? pmi is supposed to protect lenders from homeowners when they default. but the extra insurance, the pmi, is now presenting a hidden hurdle that many homeowners find themselves facing before they even knew it. fox news legal analyst, bob massi, joins us right now from vegas. good morning to you. >> good morning, steve. thank you. >> steve: okay. i bought a couple of houses and i've hated the idea of having to buy pmi 'cause it can be hundreds of dollars a month, but actually if you are foreclosed, pmi can bail you out. explain that. >> well, first of all, mortgage insurance applied only to conventional loans, not fha or
v.a. mortgage insurance is there. the issue behind it was if you didn't have 20% to put down on your homes and particularly five, six years ago, although it still exists now, then the lenders would say we'll give you the loan, but because you don't have enough money to put down, you have to buy mortgage insurance. and basically -- so most people that didn't put 20% down have mortgage insurance. >> steve: so pmi -- this is what people need to know -- pmi is extra insurance that lenders require for most homeowners who put less than 20% down on a home. >> exactly. >> steve: go ahead. >> i'm sorry, steve. the concept behind it is this: it is a protection for the lender. so if a person has a home now, let's say, and they either short saled the home or the house is foreclosed on, that mortgage insurance is there to pay a portion of the deficit of what's owed on that loan.
the problem, steve, is most of us as homeowners when we sign these three or four inches of documents to buy a home don't understand when you have mortgage insurance, if they pay that deficit, that mortgage insurance has the right to go after the homeowner for that money that was paid. >> steve: sure. historically, people have gotten private mortgage insurance because they didn't have enough to buy that house outright or to finance it without that. but now -- ten years ago, whoever would have thought we'd have such a gigantic wave of foreclosures. this is actually bailing people out. >> it's bailing the lenders out because the lenders then are going to be paid. so let's say there is a $100,000 deficit from a foreclosure. the mortgage insurance will pay a part of that and then it's a theory called subrogation. it means the insurance company then steps in the shoes of the lender and has the right to
contact the homeowner and say look, you bought us. you paid a premium. we paid it to protect you, but by the way, we have the right, if we choose, to get that money back from you, the homeowner. and a lot of people aren't talking about this and the reason i want our viewers to understand this is that when you pay for mortgage insurance, it doesn't mean that whenever you pay for it, they pay the lender that you basically walk away from that debt. they do have the right to pursue it. >> steve: it's really interesting. i never thought about that particular angle. that's why we got bob massi around. he answers your questions all the time if you've got one. log on and he can answer your questions. thank you, robert. have a great day in vegas. >> thank you, you, too. >> steve: straight ahead on this thursday telecast, president bill clinton serving you have a buffet of criticism directed at president obama. hear what the former president has to say about the current president. and here is a story about a
power unit is turned on. bill gates swimming in more cash than any other american. he's the richest man in america for the 18th straight year according to forbes. his net worth, $59 billion. give it all back. please. in seconds, warren buffet, $39 billion, way undertaxed. larry ellisson is third. >> gretchen: it really is a lovely story. ♪ it's the story of a lovely lady who was bringing up three very lovely girls ♪ ♪ all of them her hair of gold like their mother ♪ ♪ the youngest one in curls. >> gretchen: florence henderson, tv's number one mom, and a good singer. behind carol brady was a woman struggling with her own issues of depression, neglect and infidelity. >> steve: she joins us now to talk about her brand-new book "life is not a stage" from
broadway baby to a lovely lady and beyond. good morning to you. >> hi there, steve. how are you? >> steve: doing great. thank you very much. you're in new york city. let me start with the story about you and the former mayor of new york, john lindsey. >> oh, don't start with that. >> steve: we got to. you reveal you were at a hotel in beverly hills, you had a one night stand with him and he gave you a sexually transmitted disease? >> is it called that? >> steve: it's a bug. >> it's a bug. i don't know if it's in the same category 'cause i've never had one. i pray to god i never get another one. scariest thing of my life. you were married at the time. >> gretchen: this is one of the revelations in the book. >> it was a very poor choice on my part. i do believe in karma. i believe very strongly in that. i just didn't know the instant karma that i would wake up with these critters that i had never seen before in my life. it was very scary.
>> brian: out of everything, you're a very public person, you decided to write a book to tell all the other sides and one of which is you did not have an easy upbringing, right? your dad drank too much and that didn't make it easy. >> that's an understatement. >> brian: alcoholic? >> yes. >> brian: how did that affect you? >> well, i came in the youngest of ten children, a very poor family. i came at the end of the depression. my dad was a dirt farmer, a sharecropper. >> steve: tobacco. >> yeah. and it was a hard life. my mother left when i was about 12 or 13. and left me and my sister, the one next to me in age. we took care of my father. and so many people think that i've had a privileged upbringing and higher education and all of those things and that's just so far from the truth. and i wanted people to know that i'm not just carol brady, that there is a lot more it dimension to my life. and i hope in writing the book
that i could inspire someone who might have had some of the challenges that i've had, who made some of the mistakes i've made and bad choices, but i've managed to keep learning, keep evolving and becoming happier and happier in my life. that takes a lot of courage. >> gretchen: you find it ironic that based on the fact -- and i know you struggled with writing this book. >> very. >> gretchen: you really don't want to talk about some of these painful moments. but do you find it ironic that you had this sad life at the beginning and you ended up becoming america's most well-known mom who seemed to do everything right? >> i know. isn't that interesting? people often ask me, well, carol brady, why did you create that character? i said because that's the kind of mother i always wished i had had. and didn't have. so i think a lot of people feel that way, that little damn show won't go away. >> brian: i tell what you it does, the truth is, alice did a lot of the work you should have been doing.
>> steve: no kidding. >> you know -- >> brian: no wonder you're so happy, alice is doing all the hard work. >> brian, you're such a pain in the ass. >> brian: i'm telling you that -- they had a maid! >> steve: the maid is supposed to do that stuff! >> brian: he makes you talk about the affair, you talk about the painful childhood and i'm the pain in the ass. >> i didn't know i was going to be attacked. >> steve: you're not attacked! >> i'm on "fox & friends" and i get attacked. you know how often i begged for a job? i've always been a working mother, always, all my life. and i'd say, this is so awful. give me something to do. all i did was needle point. i did the same needle point for five years. i never -- >> gretchen: you mean on the show? >> yes. >> gretchen: what else did you want to do? >> i wanted to have a job. i wanted to be contributing to the family. bob didn't do that well.
>> brian: put it this way, as a friend of mine who does this on stage, a standup, he's like, listen, he's an architect, you got six kids. can someone design another room or extension on that house? >> how about another bathroom? >> brian: one bathroom. >> steve: and one of the other things people wondered about you, you and barry williams? >> no. absolutely not. >> steve: never happened? >> sweetest. >> steve: not then. maybe now? >> well, it could be. as a matter of fact, we had dinner last night with barry and his son and you should have him -- i know he's been on your show, but with his little boy, he looks exactly like barry when barry started the show. it's amazing. he's the smartest little kid and absolutely loves the brady bunch and asking me, you know, details about -- which i couldn't remember. it was very sweet. but no. >> brian: it just bugs me that charlie sheen is getting $25 million or $100 million for that show, "two and a half men,"
we're watching the brady bunch all the time and you got nothing! >> nothing, brian. >> brian: i can't sleep. >> i can't either. it's all over the world. >> brian: it bothers me. >> you know how much money that show has made for paramount studios? in the counting dvds. >> gretchen: i just bought them for my kids. you're not going to get a dime of that? >> no. you should pay me. >> steve: five bucks. >> brian: go get her book "life is not a stage". >> thank you. >> brian: barry williams, come and get it. >> another thing, you're tasteless. but you're cute. read this book and learn something. >> steve: life is not a stage, florence henderson. >> so nice to see you. >> steve: congratulations on the book. >> keep doing that weather, okay? >> steve: yes, ma'am. >> gretchen, i don't know how you do it.
>> brian: congratulations on the book. >> thank you very much. >> brian: president obama heading to ohio about the jobs today. that's what he's going to talk about. he's got his work cut out for him because in two minutes from now, we're about to find out how many people are headed to the unemployment line this week. >> gretchen: the manned behind the -- man behind the mosque near ground zero says he blew it? the incredible mistakes he says he made. >> steve: our next guest, he is here live, dean cane, fly over to the curvy couch. >> gretchen: steve, get that little money out of her. ♪
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423,000 new claims, people walked in for the very first time. the number comes to about almost 4 million people on continuing claims. in other words, they've already been. but this is the first time 423,000 new people walked in unemployment and looked for help. the number is so elevated. again, week to week, we look for 300,000, 325,000. that would indicate job creation. this just tells you there is a good chance, two fridays from tomorrow, that that unemployment number, 9.1%, will stay above 9% for months after months, also elevated. bad news for the economy. bad news for the jobs. >> steve: the president of the united states has a jobs plan. >> yeah. >> steve: although i heard you say it's not serious. >> there are so many problems with the jobs plan. ed henry pointed out, interestingly, he's going to go to the bridge which connects ohio with kentucky, both leaders of the republican side. the plan, first of all, the buffett tax, even if -- we
talked about this yesterday, didn't we? if you brought the millionaires, people who make over a million dollars from the 28 1/2% they pay on average go to the department of labor, department of the irs, i'm sorry. if you bring that up to 35%, you create $41 billion in new tax. a far cry from the trillion two or trillion thee we're adding. >> gretchen: even if they gave the government all, it wouldn't put a dent in. but understand that the populous, it's a populous proposal because for the people who are not making a million dollars, that sounds pretty good. yeah, tax them more. >> if you make $100,000 or more, you represent the group that pays 75% of all taxes paid into the irs. how much more do you expect people who create jobs and who take risk and start companies, how much more of our whole burden do you want to put on them? >> brian: bill clinton weighed in yesterday. he's a little confused by the whole thing.
but he said, i'll pay more money, but it's not really going to do much when talking about the buffett rule. let's listen. >> whatever you think about this millionaire surcharge, i don't really care because i would pay it, but it won't affect me 'cause i already pay the minimum income 'cause i live in new york. but it's okay with me. i'll pay more, but it won't solve the problem. >> steve: it's not really a millionaire's surchargement if you're making a couple hundred thousand dollars a year, you would be impacted. chuck schumer says it's a lot of money in mississippi, but not in new york. >> there is a growing list of democrat senators who are saying i'm not really sure this works. the list goes on. so clinton is right. this isn't what you need to do this spark job creation. clearly it's not working. taxing more isn't what you need to do. you need to incentiveize businesses to hire people. that usually means some sort of tax decrease. >> gretchen: it's interesting because so many democrats loved
bill clinton and independents loved him. i'm surprised that hasn't gotten more traction, that he calls obama's plan confusing. >> hillary. >> gretchen: you never know. look into your crystal ball. >> i'll see you at at "the five" >> gretchen: let's do a couple headlines now because the death toll from those contaminated cantaloupes is unfortunately going up. eight people have now died. the most recent death occurred in maryland. the other victims were from new mexico, oklahoma, and colorado where the tainted cantaloupes were traced to. several other states are reporting sick patients and the cdc says more people will likely get sick as well. >> steve: remember that developer behind the mosque near ground zero? he says he blew it. he now admits he's to blame for the uproar about the mosque, saying his biggest mistake was not including family members of the september 11 attacks.
many of them consider the mosque just 600 feet from ground zero an insult. park 51 now open to the public for the first time yesterday. >> brian: julian assange getting a taste of his own medicine. his memoir, his thing goes on sale today without his approval. his autobiography. he's enraged at cannongate, the publishing company. they say assange wanted to cancel the book deal, but since he didn't repay the advance, they went ahead and published what they had and he's outraged. >> gretchen: all right. so we still got two more great segments coming up on our show before you leave us today. president obama heading to ohio yet again. could it have something to do with the fact that the way ohio goes, the white house goes? that's what history has proven. former ohio governor ted strickland will be here live to weigh in. >> steve: plus, look over there. he's here to save the day.
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>> steve: quick headlines for you. wasn't the tsunami enough? an enormous wave crashed in japan as a typhoon slammed into the coast. 16 people died. this is the same area hit by the tsunami in march. a 41-year-old son's failure to launch has his parents suing to get him out of their house. it's all going down in italy. his parents say their son, who is just like matthew mcconaghey in the movie, won't
leave because he loves the home cooked meals and the fresh laundry. >> brian: and it's free. >> gretchen: i think change the locks. i don't get it? dean cane is best known for playing superman. and the character he plays in his newest role is sort of a super hero himself. check it out. >> i've never seen a boat cut through a bat like that in my life. >> i'm sorry. that won't happen again. >> no, that was a good thing. what you did was great, really, really good. >> thanks, mr. murphy. >> just call me murpm. >> okay, mr. murph. >> gretchen: dean cane is here to tell us about his new tv movie "a mile in his shoes" and give us his perspective on the race for 2012. this is on the gospel channel and coming up sunday. >> luke fedder plays the
character, mickey tussler. it's based on a book. it's the story of a kid who is very highly functional kid who has a great gift to be able to throw the baseball, but he had never been exposed to baseball or sports until my character sort of discovers him and brings him on the team. it's a really uplifting, great story. i'm proud to be part of. >> brian: you say luke schroeder, that's rickey schroeder's son. >> yeah. he's a great father because he's -- luke is 17, wasn't causing any trouble. did everything just right. dad wasn't there to watch him. >> brian: he's got a famous disease, right? >> asberger. >> unbelievably difficult. and he did a great job. people asked me, does he really have that? i said, that's perfect. >> steve: good acting. i know you are a registered independent. you seem to lean a little bit to the right, though. tonight right here on fox we'll have the republican debate,
along with google. who do you like so far? >> i undoubtedly like rick perry. i like him a lot. i like his record on job creation. i was fortunate enough to meet him recently and speak with him. i think he's an upstanding guy who will help turn us around. he's got my support. >> steve: you just like him 'cause he likes your character. here is the governor of the great state of texas. watch. >> nine years old and wanted to know if i was a super hero, which one would i be? i'm going to show you my age in a little bit because i don't know any of the real current super heros. but there was one in my day named superman. >> brian: there you go. that's it. he's taking care of you. >> gretchen: he went on to say, and superman came to save the united states. >> that's the absolute truth. >> gretchen: do you believe that about rick perry in this country? >> i think he is the right guy to do so, yeah. i think he'll do it. like i said, he's got my full
support. if his record in texas -- >> steve: is it about jobs? >> obviously. it's always about jobs. it's the economy, stupid. everybody knows that, but it really is. i feel it as much as anybody else. so i know that my purse strings would feel looser if he were in that office. i'd feel a lot more confident about our economy. >> brian: let's compare. california and texas, texas got no income tax. they're recruiting companies out of where you call home now over into texas. what is it like on a daily basis having nonstop stories about contraction, deficits deficits d unions? >> it's horrible. i think the day that meg whitman lost to jerry brown, i think rick perry was probably on the phone to a lot of top companies in california saying, come on over to texas. it's a lot better environment for you and everybody shipped out. that's the way it works. >> gretchen: did he have to ask for your endorsement or did you just call him and say you wanted to endorse him? how did you have that lunch? >> he didn't have to ask.
there is a group of people in hollywood who tend to be center right, if you will, and i know some of those people and they had arranged this lunch with governor perry and my father knows him as well. so he actually is a friend of the family as well. >> steve: there are so many endorsements -- people in hollywood who are so to the left. have you heard some people go, you know, i voted for barak obama and hope and change, it's not panning out. i don't know what i'm going to do? >> yeah. you hear that a lot. the thing is, i came on and i spoke before the election last election and i said, everything you look at with obama is you see really likeable guy, great speaker and that's the things you're hearing all the time now. but i said every time there is a problem, he wants to throw money at it. that was my concern then and that has become the concern now. i go back to the great reagan question. are you better off now than you were four years ago? and i don't think america is. >> gretchen: we'll all be better off if if we catch your movie on
sunday night "a mile in his shoes." a good one for the family to watch together. thanks, dean. always great to see you. >> brian: dean has been on so often, you would think we'd get an advance dvd, but nothing. >> gretchen: we got to talk about this. president obama heading back to ohio. his official agenda is to create jobs, but is his real motive to save his own job? ohio is an important state. we'll ask former governor ted strickland next. >> brian: first let's check in with martha mccallum and find out what's on at the top of the hour. how are you leaning? >> not with insulting florence henderson, i'll tell you that. good morning, guys. we've got a big day today. bill clinton says taxing the rich is fine. but it won't work. won't fix the economy. not a very big help to president obama. so what is the former president up to? we'll talk about that and first on fox, very special guest today. sergeant dakota meyer, fresh off receiving the nation's highest military honor, wait until you hear what he plans to do next.
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>> gretchen: president obama is back in ohio today to rally support for his jobs plan. it's his second visit to ohio in recent weeks, causing some to say he may be more worried about his own job. joining me now this morning for the first time on "fox & friends" is former ohio governor ted strickland. good to see you. >> good to be with you. >> gretchen: thank you so much. so here he goes again to ohio. as ohio goes, the presidency -- >> ohio is the heart of it all. >> gretchen: he's also going to the bridge between ohio and kentucky, republican-controlled leaders in those states. is that more of a political message here than just talking about jobs for americans? >> probably both. you know cincinnati. you used to work there and you know that bridge is an important
link between our two states and a lot of commerce travels over it. so i think he's chosen an appropriate place to be because there is a lot of concern about infrastructure, but especially that bridge connecting ohio and kentucky. >> gretchen: what do you make of the fact that some people are saying that maybe that bridge does not even qualify as a shovel ready project in his jobs plan? >> well, that may be true because -- but for many years, that bridge has been a focus of attention and there has been a lot of planning. when i was governor, i was constantly hearing about the need to replace that bridge. but there is a lot of infrastructure needs in ohio and across the country. i really believe that this is one of the things that we could do that perhaps everyone could agree is important, to build our infrastructure. >> gretchen: i know you gray with the president's plan, which is to put more money into the system to create these jobs. >> that's right. >> gretchen: the nine candidates on the stage in florida who want the republican, they want to be the republican candidate, they don't agree with the president's
plan at all. so what do you think that they need to do tonight to try and get the american voters to see it from their way, even though you don't agree with them? >> gretchen, both parties and all leaders within the two parties ought to be talking about this economy and how to get people back to work. the angst out there in the country is real. people are worried. they're concerned. many have laos their jobs. many are afraid of losing their jobs. middle class wages have been stagnant. so jobs -- which ever candidate convinces the american people that they are most serious about creating jobs and getting the economy growing is going to be the candidate that's going to win, i believe. >> gretchen: as a former governor, you know it comes down to the independents, not only in your own state of ohio, but also across the country. the independents in florida have left president obama 52% of them voted for him in 2008. now only 33% like the job that he's doing. florida is a very important state. is that trouble for him? >> florida is important, but
ohio is important, too. and florida and ohio are the ultimate swing states. i think the president's going to do better in ohio and i think the independents are going to be okay. i base that on a poll that was leased last week regarding the current governor and myself. by almost three to one margin, independents in ohio are now saying if the election were held today, they would vote for me. so i think there has been an overreaching in ohio that's going to be helpful to the president. i know less about florida than i do ohio, of course. >> gretchen: governor john kasich won that race. thank you so much for appearing on "fox & friends." >> gretchen, good to see you. you come back to ohio, visit us. >> gretchen: i do all the time. right back with more "fox & friends." [ female announcer ] so you think your kids are getting enough vegetables?
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